| Title: Q24 Please use this space for any comments you have regarding housing. | ||||||
| Analysis: case, Q24 | ||||||
| Filter: Q24 ok | ||||||
| case | Please use this space for any comments you have regarding... | Infrastructure upgrade before development | Agree to more housing | No more housing | Use Brown Field Sites | Other |
| 1 | Owners of long-term empty properties should be named and shamed. | |||||
| 5 | ther are lots of homes for sale in silsden that arnt selling below the national average | |||||
| 8 | If more affordable housing is what is required, Silsden is not the place to build. Additionally, there is neither the facilities or infrastructure to support further expansion at present. Development should, as ever, be focussed on brown-field sites rather than allowing them to decay. | |||||
| 16 | a good mix of houses brings in a mix of people to maintain a healthy balance. | |||||
| 20 | any houses built must have 2 off road parking spaces | |||||
| 23 | some infill building but nothing out of present boundaries | |||||
| 28 | There is not adequate public amenities for the number of dwellings in Silsden at the moment. ie no public toilets; limited off road parking; Hard standing play areas; Road/Street/pavement maintenance poor at the moment. | |||||
| 30 | Silsden is a village community and any more houses would mean we would lose this as well as losing important green areas | |||||
| 32 | There is sufficient rotation of property to meet needs and small/ cheap enough property if the government assisted first-time buyers. | |||||
| 36 | Green spaces and fields should not be used for building, brown field sites are plentiful. | |||||
| 38 | No new houses | |||||
| 40 | Above all we need affordable (but not built on the cheap)homes for local young people to be able to buy their own first house. If Bradford approve a load of family homes, They must improve public transport, sewerage and drainage systems, schools, the town hall, and the general appearance of Silsden main road before they start not forgetting Spencer Avenue. They have been benefitting for far too long from Council Tax on new homes without spending a penny to improve the superstructure of the town | |||||
| 41 | there are plenty of unused propertys in silsden, by all means build some more in the gaps and on old industrial space , but lay off the green bits | |||||
| 52 | The present housing mix is just about right. | |||||
| 54 | There should be no new housing until they have upgraded the roads, schools, parks, shops, sewers, medical care, dental care AND PUBLIC TRANSPORT. | |||||
| 55 | Build only on Brownfield sites. Make sure all infrastructure improvements are made before any new housing developments are started. These include a bypass to relieve the traffic jams on Kirkgate, main sewerage improvements, schools (both primary and secondary),policing, fire station health services etc. There is no evidence to support the idea that Silsden needs new houses anyway! | |||||
| 57 | I don't feel that anymore housing should be built here until the facilities which we have at the moment have been improved | |||||
| 62 | Silsden's infrastructure such as schools, doctors, roads, water and sewerage systems are totally overstretched with the present capacity and could not cope with any extra housing/residents | |||||
| 63 | Preferably no new housing would be built, however any possible new housing should be delayed until there is adequate provision for schooling more children, until traffic issues have been resolved, until services like sewerage has been upgraded to support an influx of people. Any new housing that is built should be built in the style of old Silsden to compliment the area. Any new housing should be built/laid out with community in mind and should not be shoe horned in. | |||||
| 65 | Many of the new developments like New Cross Mills (opposite what was Waterloo mill) have houses which are one floor too high. This does not fit in with the original Sislden housing. | |||||
| 66 | It would be nice for young people to be able to move out of their parents' homes and live independently. | |||||
| 69 | There are more houses than can cope with the children playing in the streets due to lack of garden spaces. The play areas are not always in convenient places and there is broken glass in these areas. | |||||
| 71 | The attitudes being banded about on Silsden.Net fail to take into account the need for more homes. People need to realise that a growing population necessitates the construction of more homes. | |||||
| 73 | get on with it. | |||||
| 74 | no more housing before infrastructure put in.No building on green land | |||||
| 75 | Lack of infrastuctures and finance to support additional housing without putting residents and services to current housing at risk. | |||||
| 76 | Local kids can't afford to buy homes in Silsden. | |||||
| 81 | There are too many three story houses with only two people living in them. | |||||
| 82 | Vitally important that town infrastructure is not swamped by new houses to satisfy government targets. This will ruin the feel of the town and it's countryside position. The countryside is a major reason people like the town, additional housing would destroy it. | |||||
| 101 | Affordable housing but not cheap. Cheap will attract the wrong people to Silsden. We need to stop people who buy up cheap housing placing anyone they can in them for rent. People who own their house are much prouder and keep the standards of the area up. | |||||
| 106 | Housing in Silsden is too expensive for most residents who hav lives in Silsden all their lives. Ie. Moving out of the family home and wishing to purchase in the area. | |||||
| 108 | Please don't build on our countryside - it's what makes Silsden special | |||||
| 109 | If more housing is needed, I don't think it should be large estates. Small groups of houses in a few different sites would be more easily absorbed, particularly on brown field sites. | |||||
| 114 | Before any new builds in Silsden a BYPASS should be in place. Silsden main street is not fit to take the traffic already using it. | |||||
| 118 | its hard to buy a house in a good price range with a good amount of storage or space inside them,i for example cannot access my attic its too small an opening and the bedrooms are small too, my babys room has the boiler in there. | |||||
| 120 | Homes should NOT!!! be constructed simply to allow over spill from Keighley and Bradford's non working ellite somewhere to live on housing benefit. The homes should be for people like myself that don't want to move away from the family just yet but are forced to live with parents because house prices are SO expensive in the area. | |||||
| 122 | If we have to have any new houses they should be 'starter' homes on brown field sites | |||||
| 139 | SILSDEN IS LARGE ENOUGH WE SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON IMPROVING WHAT WE HAVE RATHER THAN ADDING MORE HOUSES | |||||
| 142 | we have enough houses in silsden, The streets, doctors and sewers cannot take any more. Go on rightmove there are plenty of houses in silsden for sale now. | |||||
| 143 | More affordable housing for first time buyers with potential to work on a scheme for local people to buy one | |||||
| 144 | enough houses doctors cant cope now and sewers and main street traffic | |||||
| 146 | under the present climate, housing should be on hold, there are plenty of houses here unsold. | |||||
| 147 | silsden is big enough and housing will not benefit the village as rescorces are already over streched | |||||
| 158 | Social housing is not needed nor is low cost housing it would bring the wrong people into the area and problems with them. | |||||
| 160 | Silsden does not need any more housing built. There is not enough amenities and there would need to be more schools/doctors to accomodate these. Also a bypass would have to be built as Silsden could not cope with even more traffic than there is now. | |||||
| 161 | Flats and maisonettes in old mill buildings only, not new builds. | |||||
| 163 | No more houses in Silsden! | |||||
| 171 | we have lots of low cost/ cheaper homes for sale in silsden. it is more the top end we need to keep families in silsden | |||||
| 174 | The infrastructure can't really support much new housing. | |||||
| 182 | we have more houses than the drains can cope with now | |||||
| 188 | Replace some of the 'council house' style housing | |||||
| 191 | More control over houses/buildings left empty for long periods of time | |||||
| 196 | Silsden has a great stock of good quality terraced housing, much of it stone built. I would like to see some assistance given to home owners living in such properties and areas to improve the external environment in terms of hard and soft landscape and planting, traffic calming or traffic control and provision of more off street, safe and secure parking. All to generally improve the external quality of life for those living there. | |||||
| 197 | The development of housing has already outstripped the facilities. Water supply is very much reduced. Access to estates is minimal. Schools, libraries are inadequate for a larger population. Local shops are closing, traffic and antisocial behaviour is increasing. Only police presence is a community support officer. Sometimes. | |||||
| 199 | Please do not allow developers (Barrats, Wimpey etc) to install their poorly planned housing estates that do not foster a sense of community. Hundreds of little boxes with no thought for green spaces, childrens play areas and well thought out planning priciples are not what Silsden needs. If new housing is to be built, we need a fresh, modern approach of which there are many good examples across the country. Please do some research!!! | |||||
| 201 | if more housing is to be developed in Silsden, we need to be seriously think about improving the towns facilitys structure i.e. our own secondary school, lesuire complex better town erigation and upgrading of sewage and local econompy and wellfare faciltys(new health centre instead of the 70's throw back that is and child and youth programs) | |||||
| 210 | This was once a nice small community. Too overcrowded now, schools are packed, too many cars on the side roads. | |||||
| 211 | We should have lower tax rates for people who look after their homes and add value to the village. | |||||
| 213 | We need a bypass before more houses are built | |||||
| 216 | Too many new houses in Silsden will ruin the community spirit which is why we moved here. The schools are full to capacity & the sewers are already overloaded. | |||||
| 217 | Any housing development will incur huge infrstructure costs that could nt be met in the current financial situation or the forseeable future. A cost/ benefit analysis needs to be done by an unbiased agency rather than relying on information provided by the builders' federation. | |||||
| 218 | Silsden is big enough now and to me doesn't have 'the community' spirit, small town/large village feeling - we moved here because of this and Silsden has grown so much it's too busy. | |||||
| 219 | The town needs to encourage more families to move in but the infrastricture needs to be in place first. | |||||
| 222 | Councils allow developers to build houses (particularly affordable housing) due to the government incentives but make the mistake of not improving infrastructure and supporting community so you end up with overcrowding based on the facilities. You build a bunch of houses in Silsden and you need more parking (esp at train station), you get even more traffic and so forth. Everything gets worse and people like me move elsewhere to quieter villages. And don't even get me started on affordable housing and the erosion of society! | |||||
| 225 | Detached and semi-detached housing encourages different age groups...but overall I would not want to see any more housing as the village is big enough already | |||||
| 230 | Silsden is big enough. It does not need any more big housing estates. Make better use of the derelict sites . | |||||
| 234 | Existing buidlings that are unused could be either converted into new homes or the materials used in the demolishing of these buildings could be re used to make new homes on the site rather than new builds in currently open spaces | |||||
| 236 | Silsden is over housed, the road network is congested and many of the plans being accepted are ridiculous causing added congestion and dangers | |||||
| 240 | Please please stop bradford council building more homes in silsden. This is green belt and they are determined to ruin this amazing village by filling it with low cost housing. No more homes in silsden. | |||||
| 245 | I'm concerned about the nature of Silsden being changed by too much housing particularly if it encroaches on green belt. There are also issues about access, traffic, congestion & infrastructure | |||||
| 251 | Silsden's roads are already too congested. If more housing is built this would mean more traffic and even more congestion. | |||||
| 253 | Feel quite strongly above the number of homes that are vacant in the town at present...Why would we want to invest and take away green areas of our town in order to over populate the Town. There are sufficent houses available. No need for any more | |||||
| 254 | Would need roads improving to service any new housing. | |||||
| 258 | A pedestrian walkway over the bypass to the railway station. A new access road from the bypass across the river to the cemetery area of Silsden. A sports and leisure centre, similar to Keighleys but with a larger swimming pool. Any new houses should be in keeping with the MAJORITY of the houses in the same area. | |||||
| 261 | Do need more housing but not as much as proposed in the LDF due to infrastructure and educational constraints | |||||
| 262 | The town does not have enough facilities eg schools to support an increased population. Also drainage/flooding problems would only get worse. | |||||
| 264 | they should respect the vernacular architecture and the traditional use of space, people need gardens and yards and allotments. | |||||
| 267 | No point building anymore homes until the following getting sorted Doctors, school and better road structure as it is nearly as bad as the M25 | |||||
| 269 | I feel that Silsden does not have the infrastructure for the number of houses here currently so no more should be built until this is adressed taking into account any furter population increases | |||||
| 279 | The town is big enough as it is. | |||||
| 283 | Houses should no loner be built in Silsden above 2 stories. buildings looking like 18th century wharehouse should not be allowed, because:- They look like industrial buildings. Cause tunnel effects on streets and paths cutting out light. Are only built to increase number of houses per acre have no regard to surroundings and appearance which we have to live with for many years. | |||||
| 288 | The infrastructure in Silsden simply cannot take many more new houses! I understand that there is a proposal to build 1700 houses over the coming years. This brings tears to my eyes. Silsden is an absolute bottleneck, I queue everyday to get out on to the main road. The increased number of vehicles as a consequence of such a proposal would be catastrophic, let alone the increased volume of people wanting to park to use the village centre services. The pressures on an already over stretched health centre, dentist surgery, Post Office, the Aire Valley Trunk Sewer, parking at Steeton Station (never managed to get a parking space there yet!) would simply be too much for the services to cope. Also to cope with such demand, the previously proposed eastern by-pass would completely destroy the surrounding countryside which so many villagers enjoy on a daily basis, this is the reason why so many of us have stayed here so long. Let alone the damage to nature & it' s wildlife. There just isn't enoogh employment in this area to offer work to so many, they would have to commute & our roads & station cannot support this. I accept that some disused land scattered around the centre of the village could be used for new homes but not the beautiful countryside. Bradford Met should look to Brown belt areas first, there are hundreds in the Keighley & Bradford area! | |||||
| 289 | Silsden cannot take the strain of many more new houses. The infrastructure cannot suport it. There is very little work here, houses should be built where the work is - our roads & train station cannot cope with such demand, neither can the doctors, dentists, town services & sewers. Will bradford not stop until they destroy our village until is turns in to chaos & destroy our countryside. Build in built up areas that can cope & have the work available, ie Leeds, Bradford, even keighley | |||||
| 296 | Gloucester Ave caters well for the older person but the properties are in need of looking at for the future although they were refurbished it is not the answer to an ageing population. Look again at the overall picture. The land area would provide for fround floor accomodation. The stair cases are not fit for aged people. If these sheltered accomodation were demolished the whole area would provide bungalows - ground level accomodation - looking to the future. I am fortunate to live on ground level. The bed sits are too small. If someone needs care at home at nights they are not adequate. | |||||
| 299 | More accomodation for older people. | |||||
| 300 | Need more bungalows for older people. There are too many flats and appartments but no council owned and run bungalows. Not everyone can adapt to life in flats. | |||||
| 303 | As a recent home buyer the housing in Silsden is cheap compared to places like Skipton however they are still expensive. The new builds are to jam packed in and it needs to be better housing at a cheaper price, a large amount of housing could be created in lower Silsden and onto the hills near the reservoir | |||||
| 304 | There are already many houses for sale - the only barrier to house sales is lack of deposit monies due to high prices and lack of employment for young people | |||||
| 307 | We have deep concerns about the sheer scale of the proposed housing developments in such a small town as Silsden. Any developments must be preceeded by major improvements in infra-structure i.e. schools, roads etc. The mass development planned would completely ruin the nature of Silsden and it's surrounding countryside. | |||||
| 310 | Silsden will lose its small town/village feel if it is developed further. Traffic congestion is already a big issue. | |||||
| 319 | Silsden is already losing it's community feel. I don't want it to loose any more. I want to live in a place that people care about and feel proud to belong to. | |||||
| 322 | Silsden seems to have a good range of housing. It has a plentiful stock of cheap and mid-priced terraced housing offering good value and good-sized accommodation suitable for young couples. It also has a good stock of both established and more recently built semi-detached housing suitable for growing families. It has had more recent flat and apartment style housing built that suits singles or occasionally coupled individuals. It has established bungalow style stock for older residents. Silsden already requires better and expanded infrastructure, especially: access and connecting road transport and its satellite requirements; schools at all levels - primary, secondary, FE; retail outlets; light industry and service sector for employment; sewage, electric, communications; entertainment venues. It cannot survive on a diet of dilapidated and unadopted roads, two-room pubs, hair-dressers, take-aways and butcher's shops. Building more housing without planning and building the necessary infrastructure will not attract people. There is a serious risk of simply producing a lot of empty housing stock and reducing the value of the existing stock. The town might also benefit from a greater provision of housing stock to fill the gap between semi- and bungalow style housing, ie. housing that could attract more affluent individuals to the area who are best placed to support greater value-added in local retail and entertainment venues and potentially offer the entrepreneurship that could develop local employment. Why should the bosses not also live in Silsden? Given the geographical location, surrounding countryside and good rail transport links, as the likes of Ilkey and Skipton (or their smaller counterparts like Addingham and Cononley) become financially further out of reach for aspiring professionals, perhaps Silsden would be better placed positioning itself to attract this 'aspirational' market, rather than t he already very competitive market that is catered for by local towns such as Keighley, Bingley, Crosshills, Eastburn etc., I see this as a rather unique opportunity and given the medium terms economic outlook (i.e. growth taking over from recession), could be well timed. | |||||
| 337 | Silsden needs to retain its character as a mixed small town. There is a danger of it becoming a suburb for well off commuters to Bradford and Leeds if only large detached houses are built. | |||||
| 338 | Survey required to determine types of housing needed to meet local housing need. more housing will help support local shops services and public tansport. | |||||
| 345 | Would hate to see the proposed 1700 houses built in Silsden, although I can understand there is a need for some new houses but certainly not on this scale and without adequate provision of other facilities. | |||||
| 348 | Infrastructure will not stand any more housing | |||||
| 349 | Houses built should blend in with neighbouring properties and be affordable to a cross section of the public. Empty properties/old buildings industrial or otherwise should be adapted/ utilised where possible and surroundings sympathetically landscaped.NO dwellings should be built unless absolutely necessary. | |||||
| 351 | I think there is insufficient infrastructure to substantiate any type of additional housing in Silsden. The local schools are nearly at full capacity, the sewerage system can't cope with any further housing. The local health centre can't cope with the number of patients it has now and certainly can't cope with any additional residents. | |||||
| 352 | The village has no capacity in its infrastructure to take more housing: schools and roads are already full. The Roads are in a very bad state of repair.Traffic is already jammed through the village main street and is effectively single file and dangerous to pedestrians. The Health centre is tired and has had its redevelopment plans stopped, so is already inadequate. | |||||
| 353 | Affordable housing to buy is becoming an issue for young people in the area. The cost of rents prohibits young people from being able to save for deposits and mortgages. | |||||
| 356 | ONly if Facilites grow to match | |||||
| 357 | concernedabolut greern belt bring buuit on when brown belt availble.all new housing shojuld have parking, privacy nd somewhere for children gto play | |||||
| 361 | hrumph! | |||||
| 364 | I worry about how my teenage son and daughter will be able to afford housing anywhere | |||||
| 366 | No more houses should be built in silsden ,just update the ones which are here .Keep it a good small community ! | |||||
| 368 | More homes for elderly and mobility impaired needs | |||||
| 369 | Better Quality of New Houses needed | |||||
| 370 | We need to keep any future building in line with some of the orginal buildings in Silsden like the orginal terrace houses. NOT build 3 storey houses which do not fit into the surrounding areas like the houses build on Bradley Road and the houses on Howden Road. Please dont let them build any more Lego type houses like we ahve at the bottom of Waterside. | |||||
| 374 | The price of renting in Silsden is too high we need more low cost housing for families such as myself who have to struggle along paying £600 per month for a 3 bedroom terrace house | |||||
| 376 | Too many locals have been priced out of town. Silsden is now just a commuter town. | |||||
| 378 | I would not support building on greenbelt land or greenfield sites there are a lot of properties for sale in Silsden and brown field sites that could be used for development.If to many houses are built in Silsden it would change the Area and lose the Village feel. | |||||
| 387 | silsden dosent need any more houses, the existing infarstructure can not support extra homes, drains, roads etc | |||||
| 401 | Local credit union to help first-time buyers obtain mortgages. | |||||
| 405 | Obviously some new houses need to be built but only if services are sustainable | |||||
| 410 | Housing should be in keeping with the village and should not be allowed to sprawl out into the countryside | |||||
| 413 | Silsden should NOT expand any further outside it's current perimeters. Any new housing or developments should be strictly limited to brown field and derelict land. | |||||
| 414 | The industrial area should be developed and 'real jobs' (not warehousing or retail) should be created before building new houses. A large development of housing without new jobs in Silsden will only create a dormatory town. | |||||
| 416 | Anu future developments should not detract from the 'village' feel of Silsden. Particular attention must be placed upon this!!!!! | |||||
| 417 | Don't need more houses.There are plenty up for sale lets sell them first. | |||||
| 423 | Very few bungalows for people downsizing or retiring. Very few affordable 4 bed houses!! | |||||
| 429 | Cheap 1st buyers for locals. Better drainage sewers. New school. | |||||
| 430 | Use as many brown field sites as possible. | |||||
| 431 | None. | |||||
| 432 | Silsden is as big as it needs to be. We don't have the infrastructure to cope with more people. Bradford Met as no interest in Silsden, everything is done by locals, cleaning the beck, putting up Christmas decorations etc. | |||||
| 436 | More housing or people or cars is not of concern personally but the roads are congested. Access out of Belton Road and Howden Road is difficult about 4.30 - 6pm. It as shame the by-pass road has been stalled for now. | |||||
| 437 | Silsden has expanded enough. | |||||
| 443 | No more houses to be built in Silsden especially on green fields. | |||||
| 458 | I feel strongly that the main road through Silsden could not cope with any more vehicles passing through, particularly as parking is allowed on one side, which it is very difficult for wagons to come through. I also feel there is a surplus of houses already, many of which are for sale or to let. | |||||
| 460 | The character of Silsden needs to be maintained. Green field sites need to be preserved. Development of the brown field sites is necessary. New housing needs to be of stone. | |||||
| 467 | Until better infrastructure is in place, creating more and more houses is unnecessary. Many houses are for sale but not selling if we continue to have a mentality of building for jobs we will end up like Southern Ireland where brand new housing estates are now being torn down. There has been quite enough housing built in Silsden over the years. | |||||
| 477 | No more housing. | |||||
| 483 | Not enough new detached houses being built. Don't want low cost houses except for the young local people. | |||||
| 489 | As stated before I think there are sufficient houses in Silsden. | |||||
| 493 | Whatever is built – parking areas should be necessary for homes and spaces for visitors. Parking has made a lot of areas in Silsden very tight – because a lot of older housed which where built obviously when no vehicles owned. | |||||
| 494 | There is enough housing already for Silsden with Bradford MDC insisting that we should have more. There are not enough school places for children in the local schools and with Ilkley Grammar over subscribed already, older children have to travel miles to get to school. | |||||
| 495 | The room sizes on new houses are an issue for me and so although I feel there is more need for smaller starter homes these need to have fewer rooms of better proportions. | |||||
| 497 | Too little knowledge to comment. | |||||
| 498 | There are many, many houses for sale in Silsden, why do we need more housing. We don't have room in the schools, traffic congestion at peak times is a problem and we don't have enough useful shopping. | |||||
| 500 | As the population increases Silsden has to accept the need for new houses but the infrastructure has to be improved in readiness - sewage disposal, roads and schools. | |||||
| 502 | The more houses, the more people. The more people, the more work for our tradesmen and trades people. | |||||
| 509 | Low cost housing for local people. | |||||
| 517 | There isn't any need for any more homes being built in Silsden. The roads are too crowded anyway. Schools would have to be made bigger. Sewers couldn't cope. NO MORE BUILDING IN SILSDEN. | |||||
| 528 | New housing provision should be limited to a maximum pro rata with increase in population and not used by Bradford as an easy option to satisfy the building industry. It should be sustainable growth! | |||||
| 531 | Silsden has got big enough. To expand more would spoil the village. | |||||
| 537 | Silsden property generally more expensive than other local areas, we need to have affordable housing to allow young people (families) onto the housing ladder. Also decent accommodation for single people of any age. | |||||
| 538 | I do not want houses built on fields with rights of way as I use these to gain access to open country. | |||||
| 540 | The infrastructure at Silsden is stretched to its limits, therefore more housing would put more strain on the facilities and cause even more traffic congestion. | |||||
| 541 | In and around Silsden there are always houses for sale. Some inexpensive, others not so, but all reasonably priced. The problem is not that there are not enough houses but that mortgages are scarce and require a large deposit. Some houses are on the market for 2+ years. | |||||
| 542 | Housing should be restricted to infill sites only. | |||||
| 548 | If they build anymore houses they should be affordable terraced houses. | |||||
| 549 | We have enough houses, the Main St is very congested, also by the Co-Op junction, the schools cant take any more children. Bradford built council houses East Dene (etc.) Sackville Road, all the houses used Hillcrest Ave and Spencer Ave all these years and now wont make the road up (its a disgrace) the council also receive rates from two more estates up there, Kilsney Fold, Hunters Glen etc. they all use the road. When the council houses were built the council made half a road on Sackville Road nothing has ever been done to the road, it has virtually disappeared (its like a Beck bottom) disgraceful. | |||||
| 550 | Too many houses now and no new schools, also more children in the village with not enough for them to do. | |||||
| 552 | There has been too many, too quickly. The town is loosing its character. | |||||
| 553 | Not in agreement with new development in living accommodation but conversion of any derelict property, warehouse, mills etc. helps maintain a pleasant environment. | |||||
| 560 | Pavements in areas of Silsden (residential areas) very poor. Patched, weeds, collapsing edge stones, look scruffy. | |||||
| 563 | No comment. | |||||
| 564 | No further building required especially using green belt land. | |||||
| 567 | More local authority property. | |||||
| 568 | Please think about water supply and local facilities. | |||||
| 571 | Large housing developments are totally inappropriate without improved sewage infrastructure, schools, medical facilities and parking. Also Silsden is a total Bottleneck at rush hours at the moment. If there are road works or vehicle breakdown, there are delays of half an hour or more just to get through the town. Ambulances/fire services are frequently struggling to get through. | |||||
| 572 | Too many new houses has changed the character of the village already more new houses will make it worse. | |||||
| 573 | Encourage house builders to come to the town but control what materials they use with a mix of one to 5 bedroom houses. No housing associations in any development. | |||||
| 578 | I think there is a good mix, though I am looking for a bungalow and there are few on the market. | |||||
| 579 | There is already a traffic problem in Silsden, more housing only aggravates this. Silsden’s charm is its rural village/town atmosphere, which is shattered by this heavy traffic flow (especially lorries and other large, noisy vehicles). Just stand on the High Street on any day and try to hold a conversation, impossible to hear for the traffic and that vibration must have some impact on buildings etc. | |||||
| 580 | Silsden cannot cope with more people it will lose its community feel. The road, schools, drains cannot cope. | |||||
| 583 | Low cost housing should only be available to residents already living in Silsden. It is not acceptable to treat Silsden as an overflow for Keighley. | |||||
| 587 | Lave our open space alone. | |||||
| 588 | Plenty of houses for sale in Silsden. No more required unless business development is increased. | |||||
| 592 | Silsden infrastructure (roads, education etc.) cannot support more housing as it stands. | |||||
| 594 | Silsden has plenty of houses. Please don’t build more. | |||||
| 596 | I do not feel sufficiently qualified to answer the above questions on housing. | |||||
| 597 | Not enough spaces in schools for the amount of new families in Silsden. | |||||
| 601 | Feel Silsden has enough houses and more would be problematic because of the roads, not enough schools and general infrastructure. | |||||
| 603 | No more houses. No room in schools. Too many cars already. | |||||
| 608 | New build should only be available when say less than 10% of existing houses are for sale. This ensures present housing stock is sold and not left unsold with new houses of wrong price being built. More council houses should be available 2/3 bed. | |||||
| 609 | Until the main infrastructure I.e. roads, sewages, police, schools, health centres are improved to there should be no more building in Silsden. Leave the fields green. | |||||
| 613 | Anymore building would mean losing our countryside. I can remember leaving the main street in Silsden you could be in fields etc. straight away. Now for a pleasant stroll you have quite a way to go to get past built up areas. We become less like a village every year. Dead against anymore development. | |||||
| 615 | If more new houses are to be built then the infrastructure needs to be vastly improved. Silsden could already support a secondary school of its own and more houses would mean that this would be desperately needed. Local employment would also need to be improved. | |||||
| 618 | There are plenty of vacant properties in Silsden without building more. | |||||
| 619 | There is no new houses being built than first time buyers could afford. | |||||
| 623 | Because of the traffic on the road through the village more housing would add to the congestion, pollution and general safety of the population. | |||||
| 624 | Would be concerned that local schools could cope with additional numbers. | |||||
| 626 | The proposed massive influx of properties to be built in and around this area is ridiculous, the towns and cities in the area are fast becoming dead due to poor planning. More use of land in the towns and cities should be developed before moving into the surrounding areas, and causing long travel times and congestion in certain spots such as Keighley centre, Shipley and Saltire, all of these places need sorting out before adding to the congestion. | |||||
| 627 | Too expensive housing at the moment. Not enough facilities to cope with current housing. Doctors cannot cope. School - need high school, more nurseries. | |||||
| 668 | If many more houses are built the roads will be even more congested than they are at certain times of the day. The schools would need to expand which wouldn’t be an option as there is no space. I feel Silsden is big enough as it is. | |||||
| 669 | Too little attention is paid to the impact of new housing locations on road, traffic and school provision. | |||||
| 670 | Silsden is big enough. Sewerage/schools/roads/jobs more housing means more people which overloads the already full - all of the above. Also more people could lead to more crime, vandalism, fly tipping, litter, drug and alcohol related problems and possible violent muggings etc. | |||||
| 672 | If we have more houses, we need to make sure the school has enough places for local children. | |||||
| 675 | No point building new houses if town infrastructure cannot cope. | |||||
| 676 | There are already problems with the sewer at Steeton, being fed by Silsden and Steeton. Are schools going to be big enough. There would be more cars, making roads more congested. | |||||
| 678 | Far too much. Its killing the character of the town and the infrastructure simply cannot cope with the increasing volume of traffic. We need a school improvement for primary. | |||||
| 679 | Recent developments begin squashed together way too much. New developments always cause parking problems. | |||||
| 681 | No more green space should be used for building. | |||||
| 684 | Need more bungalows for older people. There are many flats and apartments but no council owned and run bungalows. Not everyone can adapt to life in flats. | |||||
| 687 | Would not like to see large scale building of houses. I do not think the infrastructure or the present basic layout would accommodate any massive changes and would spoil the character of the place. | |||||
| 688 | Use brown sites only to build upon. | |||||
| 697 | The infrastructure is not available in Silsden to support any more new houses. | |||||
| 714 | All future housing development within the current housing extent, no green field sites. Use of brown field sites only. | |||||
| 722 | With all the extensive terrace housing in Silsden (low cost housing is not required) but extra 3-4 bed housing would help Silsden develop a better range of housing stock. | |||||
| 724 | The more expensive new builds seem to sell well but brings new people in rather then helping local people. | |||||
| 725 | Cant answer this. Suspect there is a need for affordable, decent homes. | |||||
| 726 | Judging by number of houses for sale there is no need for further building from sheltered housing. | |||||
| 727 | Any large increase in number of dwellings must be regulated by existing facilities e.g. local roads all already very crowded especially at peak times. I understand that the Aire Valley drain sewer is operating at almost full capacity. Are there enough schools to cope with large increase in population? | |||||
| 728 | The infrastructure would not be able to support any significant increase of housing (and resulting population) in Silsden. Water/sewerage system would be unable to cope without massive expenditure to improve them. Extra traffic resulting from a housing increase would lead to traffic congestion, plus additional wear and tear on roads which at present are far from satisfactorily maintained. Where would the additional local jobs come from? The last thing we need is for Silsden to become even more of a feeder town to towns/cities in the WR. The local school would be quite unable to cater for any sizable increase of junior pupils. | |||||
| 732 | No more housing. | |||||
| 733 | Have lived in Silsden all my life (52 years) and seen it go from a lovely village to a town that has expanded into beautiful countryside while maintaining it would seem amenities only suitable for a village. | |||||
| 734 | If lots more houses built, Silsden will be linking up with other villages and lose what we have, not Silsden anymore. | |||||
| 735 | The temptation is for all of us to say not in my back yard. But, Silsden should bear its share and maybe more. We need to encourage younger families - they will benefit the town as a whole. | |||||
| 738 | The town houses near the top of Banklands Lane (on right) have spoilt this rural area which was originally all bungalows (detached). | |||||
| 739 | Bungalows close to town centre/transport to shops adaptable for old people if necessary, by owners themselves. Like Briardene bungalows, with some nice outlook and outside space. To rent or buy. Suggest Bolton Road area. | |||||
| 743 | All houses are too expensive. | |||||
| 744 | To help get the housing market going in Silsden, young people/couples need affordable homes. Recently we've just had in fill small development of quite pricey homes. | |||||
| 745 | A lot of new build houses in Silsden are only suitable for short term buyers and buy to let. This detracts from community feeling. Refurbish old houses and existing properties into permanent family homes. Phase out the existing planning that allows 3 or 4 apartments in a family size space. A lot of permanent home buyers are avoiding Silsden due to the general deterioration and a very high buy to let and couldn't care about community landlords. | |||||
| 746 | There's no more room for housing without taking up more green belt land. | |||||
| 747 | Gloucester Avenue caters well for the older person but the properties are in need of looking at for the future although they were refurbished it is not the answer to an ageing population. Look again at the overall picture. The land area would provide far ground floor accommodation. The stair cases are not fit for aged people. If these sheltered accommodation were demolished the whole area would provide bungalows and ground level accommodation. I am fortunate to live on ground level. the bed sits are too small. If someone needs care at home at night they are not adequate. | |||||
| 748 | More accommodation for older people. | |||||
| 750 | Can the schools/roads/sewer cope with an increase in housing. | |||||
| 751 | Not long moved to this area so cant really comment much yet on this topic. | |||||
| 752 | Any more housing in Silsden area would require the appropriate improvements to the sewage system which seems to be at full capacity, if not inadequate now. Also required would be a secondary school for the town. South Craven School is already extremely large and is not easily reached by public transport from Silsden. | |||||
| 754 | More small units are needed 1 or 2 bed for the elderly and young people starting out. Not 3 storey, 4 bed that people cannot afford. But this housing should be on a small scale/Brownfield sites or infill to retain the open spaces surrounding Silsden. | |||||
| 755 | Recent developments seem to have been restricted to brown field sites and developing ex mill accommodation, this is fine, any encroachment into greenbelt is wrong, Silsden is big enough. | |||||
| 758 | There are a lot of older people in Silsden and hardly any sheltered housing. Also not many bungalows. No houses should be built without 2 off road parking spaces, too many cars and nowhere to park. | |||||
| 760 | Silsden cant cope with more houses - roads, doctors, schools etc. | |||||
| 761 | Would be against any large housing/social housing development. | |||||
| 762 | Most houses are boringly similar. | |||||
| 765 | The current infrastructure would put current residents at risk. There is not the finance available to rectify this. The risks and detrimental effects of any more housing would be overuse of water supply and sewers, lack of sufficient education and health provision and policing, traffic congestion. | |||||
| 766 | If the population in Silsden is increasing them the need for new development cannot be ignored. As a new resident in Silsden I cannot comment on what types of housing are required but I believe it should be in character and serve the needs of the existing population as well as newcomers. the needs of young local people should not be left out and there should be some provision for social housing. | |||||
| 769 | Silsden has reached its limit and should not expand any further. Any limited new housing should only be built on brown field or derelict land. | |||||
| 770 | I do not live in one being a lorry driver. | |||||
| 771 | Enough housing currently. | |||||
| 774 | We don’t cater enough for the elderly and disabled people, they need bungalows not 2 story flats e.g. Gloucester Avenue. How does an elderly person walk down steep flight of stairs to put their washing out or go to their bins. | |||||
| 775 | Low cost and specialist housing on Brown field sites and existing building conversions. | |||||
| 776 | Sykes Lane site should be the last development in Silsden. No more building on green field sites. Use the 1000 acres of brown field sites already available to Bradford council. There is a huge empty site in the middle of Bradford start there. | |||||
| 777 | If any building - small houses built on brown site land. | |||||
| 778 | Silsden roads are really congested - the last thing we need is more houses. | |||||
| 779 | There are enough housed for sale without building any more. No way should the green belt be encroached upon. It should be preserved. | |||||
| 781 | no more houses. Silsden already has too many homes. Lots for sale and plenty for rent. | |||||
| 787 | Silsden will not be able to cope with more houses unless parking, road conditions, sewage system, schools , doctors surgery are improved first. | |||||
| 790 | Many of the houses built recently, attractive as they are, have very small token gardens, not suitable for families with young children. Many do not have garages either, which again tends to restrict them to a certain section of society. If we have family homes built, i.e. 3 bedrooms or so, I’m sure these would be very popular. However, it would mean putting in other new infrastructure such as a new junior/infant school, as the existing ones seem busting at the seems. Already, neither school has any green land to expand. This could be on one of those empty sites opposite the garage. | |||||
| 799 | Silsden has already been over developed and existing green spaces should be preserved for the future. Understanding a need for more housing the council should concentrate on low level developments of brown field sites, regenerating derelict land where possible. | |||||
| 801 | There is new enough housing in Silsden, considering the limited local facilities. There is certainly no need to build houses on green field sites. | |||||
| 803 | The Silsden roads are not adequate enough at the moment for even the current rate/amount of traffic. | |||||
| 807 | Local people out priced. | |||||
| 808 | I don’t feel that Silsden can cope with any more housing. The infrastructure cant cope with the village feel to the town will be lost. | |||||
| 812 | Not lived in Silsden a long time so cannot pass comments. | |||||
| 813 | It would be nice to think that young people who want to remain in the community are not forced out. | |||||
| 819 | There are plenty of houses for sale in Silsden ranging from inexpensive to stupidly expensive. There can not be any need to develop the surrounding fields (except for the profit of a small number of individuals). | |||||
| 826 | We need a Morrison's supermarket. | |||||
| 830 | There are enough houses up for sale in Silsden for people to purchase. | |||||
| 834 | Fight all plans to build on Greenfield sites/bypass etc. Silsden must not grow. | |||||
| 836 | The roads wouldn’t cope with an increase in housing. Silsden is the right size as it is now. | |||||
| 839 | I think it is a complicated issue and links very strongly with employment, but a good balance of value/styles is important. Perhaps we have too many bungalows already? Preserve old property by upgrading where possible to keep hold of history and maintain a good mix of architecture. | |||||
| 840 | There are plenty of housing and office blocks in Silsden that are empty - so no need for any more. When houses or office blocks are built they are never finished properly. | |||||
| 841 | Development of brown field sites only. Bo further development on the flood plains. No encroachment to green belt surrounding town. Upgrade of sewer system before any major development inclusion of provision of leisure infrastructure by developers in any future substantial development leisure centre, cinema etc. | |||||
| 843 | Any future housing should be only considered alongside future school provision, employment opportunities and available retail provision. | |||||
| 844 | Although housing is needed, the infrastructure of Silsden will not cope with more housing. More cars etc. The roads, drainage system, schools are all already working to capacity. | |||||
| 847 | There is enough already we should build a comprehensive school or a sports hall. | |||||
| 848 | 38 years ago Silsden was a fantastic place to work and live most people who lived in Silsden worked in Silsden. Silsden is large enough it has already lost its identity as a village and is not a small town. The infrastructure cant cope with more houses and we wouldn't want industrial units not for Silsden. | |||||
| 850 | Housing should be balanced and not targeted to specific types but designed with families in mind and affordable. Major building programme on green belt should be avoided. A balanced building programme across the whole of Silsden is possible. | |||||
| 854 | Not happy about developers cramming detached houses on land that would accommodate more small houses and taking into account that a lot of households have two cars. | |||||
| 855 | Room for housing development on land to left of canal bridge, as you approach Silsden I.e. from old Weavestyle mill onwards. | |||||
| 860 | There should be low cost housing for young families. | |||||
| 865 | Any housing development should take into consideration of back up facilities schools, shops. The closing of Barclays bank in Silsden doesn’t help. | |||||
| 869 | Housing is important but should suit needs of the towns people and not making tow into a commuter place to live. It is a small town and should remain so. We are already experiencing an array of foreigners who are not born in this country so where are they working and why didn’t a Silsdener get the job. The type of housing should suit our youngsters who are starting out and then progress to small family housing. Larger housing not as important because this means commuter who work out of the area and we have to think of the environment. | |||||
| 876 | Where else to build other than green land. Housing increase would need development of town infrastructure e.g. health and school development. | |||||
| 878 | There should be no more housing without increasing the schools in the area. A secondary school is needed with a larger primary school, infant school. | |||||
| 879 | Before any new housed are built, a bypass needs building, as the traffic congestion needs relieving. Also the sewerage system needs upgrading to cope with more housing. A new school will need building as Silsden children have to go South Craven. We do not want new houses on greenbelt land. If we have new houses it should be affordable housing for local people not for wealthy commuters who put nothing into Silsden. | |||||
| 881 | We have too many houses, the roads can’t cope Bradford Council do not keep up the footpaths. We need roads making up to houses round to Laithe Close, awful when it rains. Breakmoor Avenue, Sackville Road never been surfaced since the houses were built. | |||||
| 882 | We need a new health centre. | |||||
| 884 | Is Silsden a smokeless area? As I can smell bad fumes, worse in winter because of that I feel very tired walking, carbon monoxide. Bed sits are only for people without much interest in life. I like to live not to be restricted. | |||||
| 885 | Council needs to push for small houses for first time buyers. | |||||
| 887 | We disagree with any more homes being built in Silsden it is big enough now. | |||||
| 888 | Don’t want anymore housing of any sort. | |||||
| 891 | There are plenty of houses, more would mean more traffic problems. | |||||
| 894 | I think it is very important that we keep Silsden a respectable, ice, safe place to live and do not let it go the same way as Keighley, Bradford and other run down areas that are now ruined by letting the wrong type of people move in. | |||||
| 896 | If more houses are built the main road cannot cope with the capacity of traffic coming though the town as there is too much now, especially HGVS, the schools would need to be bigger, health centre also we would also need a larger supermarket. | |||||
| 897 | Limited rental properties and very expensive. Affordable family homes are needed to buy/let and possibly retail purchases, why not bring that back? | |||||
| 902 | Again, need to consider infrastructure to support more houses, residents e.g. in principle, specially adapted homes is positive but Silsden not easily accessible generally to wheelchair users. | |||||
| 903 | Like many other Silsden residents, I feel that Silsden is probably as large as local facilities, drainage, sewerage etc can support. I am particularly against new building being undertaken on green space. | |||||
| 904 | More opportunities for young people to gain access to housing market. | |||||
| 909 | Silsden has grown dramatically over the past few years and has become a dormitory town for commuters to Bradford and Leeds. Silsden cannot support the number of houses planned for the future. The infrastructure currently available cannot support very much further growth. The schools are full. The doctors cannot cope, the road system is badly congested and the drainage system in inadequate as is public transport. A large part of the green fi3eld area is flood plain and not suitable for housing. | |||||
| 914 | Other facilities i.e. Schools, leisure provision will be needed if substantial house building goes ahead. | |||||
| 920 | I would question whether the towns infrastructure would cope with the influx of more housing. The roads and side roads are already badly congested with traffic. There would be extra pressure on schools, health services and sewerage which were not meant to deal with so many extra families, vehicles etc. | |||||
| 922 | Too many new houses would mean more traffic, congested parking in town and station. | |||||
| 926 | Help for local young and fist time buyers. | |||||
| 934 | Silsden is unable to take anymore houses. The infrastructure is unable to support more building. Traffic is a large problem. More houses means more cars. The town centre is extremely busy already. We don’t want more houses/traffic. | |||||
| 935 | We should fight all plans to build on our green fields. | |||||
| 937 | That too many new houses have been built in the last 10 years. We don’t have the resources e.g. schooling, water and sewage provision. This will also increase the amount of traffic to an unacceptable level. Therefore, pollution will increase, noise, risk of accidents, more difficulty parking. | |||||
| 939 | Silsden housing position at the moment is quite adequate. | |||||
| 940 | We do need more low rented homes in Silsden for local people that live in Silsden as we had put in for a 2 bed flat and the housing association told us that we could not have a 2 bed flats as there is not so many flats in Silsden and they like to give them to outsiders. | |||||
| 944 | Three story development at back of Methodist is out of keeping with rest of village. | |||||
| 947 | Being a Mill town there's lots of terrace properties for starter homes. Future building should enhance the town. Definitely not 3 story. | |||||
| 948 | There appears to be quite a large number of houses currently for sale for months at a time in Silsden. Do we really need more developing? | |||||
| 949 | The brown sites alongside the canal which are unsightly should be developed on and any other industrial land could be used for housing. The green fields and the barrier between Silsden and Steeton should be left as they are. There are plenty of eyesores which could be improved on first. | |||||
| 952 | Silsden is big enough. There is no more room for 1700 new homes. New, larger schools, are needed. What about sewers and drains, traffic congestion if anymore are built? | |||||
| 953 | More rent to buy housing. Enable and encourage more young families to the area and also opportunities to buy/own their own home. | |||||
| 960 | The present infrastructure of Silsden does not easily lend itself for much future development I.e. a poor through road system, tight parking in the town centre areas and few loading and unloading facilities for local shops. Hold ups frequently during business hours because of severe overcrowding on the roads and streets. | |||||
| 962 | Too many houses not enough amenities. Its too busy now. We need better schools and better supermarkets for more houses. What we have now is good for what we have. | |||||
| 965 | Stop Bradford placing immigrants into vacant council properties. | |||||
| 971 | If building more houses what about sewers and rains. These will need replacing and more built. Also don’t we need schools? Possibly 4 estate agents all with window full of houses for sale and let why do we need more. | |||||
| 974 | If a few more developments are to be our young people who find it almost a no to be able to pay large deposits on a new first time home might be glad of small selection of terrace houses or cottages at more affordable rates for purchase or rent. For Silsden to support all the housing suggested in proposal by Bradford etc. we need seriously to revive the capacity of the infrastructure or we are in trouble. | |||||
| 978 | Houses built will only make traffic worse. The get out at Dale View is dangerous. The get out at Daisy Hill is dangerous. The wait to get out at Clog Bridge from Howden road is lengthy at the best of times. The schools are already full without any extra housing. Empty houses should be filled before other are built. | |||||
| 979 | I have only been a resident for a short time and am unaware of housing developments in Silsden so do not feel able to answer the above. | |||||
| 982 | The houses in Silsden are not selling as it is, we do not need to disrupt any more green sites. If we keep building and expanding Silsden it will loose its heritage. We need to keep Silsden as it is and stop it becoming a large unsightly mess. | |||||
| 984 | More houses means more facilities which we wont get e.g. bigger and better health centre, schools, post office, more banks, better parking. The houses that are for sale now don’t seem to be selling so why build more. | |||||
| 987 | The burgeoning of new build/commercial conversion in last 20 years, with loss of some local facilities has led to greater pressure on roads and rail service. | |||||
| 988 | Very poor planning controls. Still have brown field sites to develop. Get rid of eyesores first. Much better landscaping - many more trees. | |||||
| 989 | Silsden is over crowded as it is. More houses means more people. Silsden facilities are not good enough doctors, dentists, schools, roads etc. | |||||
| 993 | If more houses are built more school places/another school would be needed. | |||||
| 999 | Nothing too modern please. | |||||
| 1001 | An appropriate mix. | |||||
| 1002 | Need to ensure that the infrastructure e.g. transport/drainage/education can support any new housing requirements. Use of brown field sites where possible. Developers to produce community resources e.g. play area/gardens open to all residents as part of agreement for them to build on land and make profit. Need to preserve green spaces on Aire Valley corridor to keep Silsden separate. | |||||
| 1003 | If we have to have more houses, lets have some of the corporate services we pay for. Swimming pool at Hothfield Street is for infants up to 6/7 year old. No good for adults and older children. | |||||
| 1006 | Plenty of houses for same - many empty. The main road, schools and other services are always overloaded. | |||||
| 1015 | Encouragement to update and improve existing housing. | |||||
| 1028 | We in Silsden need a good mix of all types of new housing. | |||||
| 1059 | Don't need any more housing. The infrastructure we have can't cope with what we've got now. Numerous drains blocked up as soon as we get a substantial downpour - floods!! | |||||
| 1062 | Totally against it. | |||||
| 1065 | No thank you - to massive estates and thousands of people. At the moment, the drainage, schools, shops, police, crime containment and traffic just could not take any more building. Nor could we. Silsden was and still is a nice place to live. Why would you be so intent on spoiling it completely - along with every other village in Yorkshire. | |||||
| 1066 | Before any new development in Silsden, traffic problems, schools, drainage, and the protection of green belt must be given priority. | |||||
| 1069 | The canal towpath through Silsden needs upgrading to a better surface but with provision to slow down cyclists. | |||||
| 1076 | The sewers aren't big enough to accommodate all these houses! It's bubbling up in some gardens! My brother-in-law commented on this 14 years ago, he was a heating engineer! | |||||
| 1078 | No houses until roads etc improved and bypass built. | |||||
| 1079 | Bradford Council are unable to provide services that local people pay for at Silsden's present size e.g. dustbins, gritting, street sweeping, lighting, toilets. We don't need any more building, except possibly on derelict brown field sites. BUT not green field sites. | |||||
| 1080 | At the moment the road through Silsden is very busy, also would the doctors be able to cope with a large influx of people. | |||||
| 1081 | Services, nature of environment i.e. flood plain, should prohibit further development. Too much ribbon development in Aire Valley. | |||||
| 1083 | Think there is enough housing development in Silsden. | |||||
| 1094 | Whilst housing is very important a balance against the area needs to be considered. Existing housing stock needs to be better used before new builds are allowed. | |||||
| 1095 | Severe lack of housing for anyone wishing to move away from terraced housing. All new properties that have been built instantly create parking issues. Typical examples - 4 bed canalside properties with parking for 1 car and garages which are far too small or narrow. | |||||
| 1096 | Would move from Silsden if a great deal more houses of any kind were built on the hills around Silsden, one of the reasons I moved here was for the views and that Silsden wasn't too big in 1999. It is getting too big now. | |||||
| 1097 | None, road through Silsden too busy now. | |||||
| 1098 | Any homes built should show priority to local residents. | |||||
| 1101 | It's no good just building homes if people have to leave to go to other places for shopping in earnest and other facilities, like a jig-saw, all the pieces need to be there. | |||||